By Trungpa, Rinpoche Chogyam
"transcript of talks given by means of Chogyam Trungpa, Rinpoche on the fourth Vajradhatu Seminary, a twelve-week interval of extensive meditation and examine, held at Land O'Lakes, Wisconsin September-November 1976"
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Extra resources for 1976 Seminary Transcripts: Hinayana - Mahayana
The members of the sangha who are already practicing, who have already committed themselves, seem to be more confident and happy. So the would-be students get into the middle of an ongoing situation. They begin to realize that those who are already part of the sangha seem to have some ideas and experiences of reality in its fullest sense. That is to say, there is a sense of renunciation, egolessness and devotion tak,ing place in them. Because of that, new students feel they, too, want to commit themselves as the older students have done; but they still have a lot of resistance, a lot of uncertainties and confusion.
Last night we just tried to go along with what Buddha has to say. Just that. The idea of "me" is conditioned explanations of "you" and "your" together, which is "I am" together. That's that-very simple. When you say "I," it is a very lonely statement. " It's a very solid situation. But "Me would like a cup of tea" would be very weak. And it's pidgin English anyway. So it's meek. Meek. Who is that "me"? In ordinary English it's better to answer "U' So "me" doesn't mean very much. " Q: Is this why you call it an extension of yourself?
Tsiiltim and tiilshug-this whole thing-is extremely genuine. If you can't practice fully and properly, ~hen you can't even enter into the path. " So sitting on a zafu is a no "I am" situation. Tiil is the zafu, shug is the person sitting on the zafu. Comprendo? ~ QUESTION: Can you elaborate on that? RINPOCHE: Well, I can elaborate in terms of what we should be doing ourselves right here. That is to say, the two egolessnesses that we talked about last night are actually meaningful. This is also connected with the talk earlier in this seminary about giving up personal trips.